The Argument:

(1) At the Final Consummation the Damned will suffer

(2) God will be all in all at the Final Consummation

(3) God will be “in” the damned’s suffering (whether magnifying his glory by his wrath or his punishment by his justice, etc)

(4) The elect will rejoice and take pleasure in all of God’s acts (whether that of glorification or justice)

(5) The elect will rejoice and take pleasure in God’s infliction of suffering upon the damned

Conclusion: The elect will take pleasure in the suffering of the damned.

Let’s call this the “reduction ad sadism” conclusion, that is, the doctrine of eternal conscious damnation would entail the virtues of sadism. Is this a good argument? Why or why not?

One thought on “Does the Doctrine of Eternal Conscious Damnation entail Sadism?”

    The five points of Calvinism should be expressed as unconditional damnation.

    The premise of Calvinism that men have no free-will and that men can only be saved if God predetermines each person for salvation.

    Calvinism teaches that men are saved by unconditional election.

    The antithesis of unconditional election is unconditional damnation.


    1. Total Depravity: Man is totally depraved so he cannot choose or desire God.

    If total depravity is true, then unless men are unconditional elected for salvation, they are unconditionally damned to hell for all eternity.

    2. Unconditional Election: God unconditionally elects those whom He has predetermined to save.

    If unconditional election is true, then conversely all others are unconditionally damned, lost outside of Christ.

    3. Limited Atonement: Jesus died only for those who have been unconditionally elected for salvation.

    If limited atonement is a Biblical fact, then all who are not unconditionally elected for salvation will die in their sins because they will face unconditional damnation.

    4. Irresistible Grace: When God calls the elect for salvation, they cannot resist.

    Those who are not called by irresistible grace will be unconditionally damned and will spend eternity in the lake of fire.

    5. Perseverance of the Saints: Once you have been unconditionally elected for salvation you can never be lost. Once saved always saved.

    If God did not unconditionally give you the faith so you could believe and be saved, and you have no free-will to believe or reject Jesus; then you are unconditionally damned. You are once damned always damned.

    God does not unconditionally save anyone nor is anyone UNCONDITIONALLY DAMNED.

    THERE ARE NO POINTS OF CALVINISM THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY SCRIPTURE. [Read the whole New Testament and understand God’s plan for mankind]


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